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Freedom fighters or terrorists

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 5:13 pm
by Seahorse
biggles wrote:sept 11 has completely changed the meaning of terrorist,

terrorist's are people that use terror for personal gain.

and i would say that terrorism has FUCKING NOTHING to do with nationality or religion.


also i see whoever crashed the plane into the twin towers as mislead freedom fighters, not terrorists.
Speaking of mislead, what kind of 'Freedom' were they seeking? Perhaps you would care to illuminate us with your insights on this subject Biggles....

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 5:17 pm
by shrek
It doesn't matter what their reasons for doing it were, at the end of the day their are still terrorists.

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 7:53 pm
by mid_gen
I would classify terrorists as any military group that intentionally targets civilians...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 8:11 pm
by bartender
By that definition are the governments that fight terrorists terrorists?

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 8:17 pm
by Seahorse
Why, which Govt has targeted civvies...?

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 9:06 pm
by fabian
they were terrorist, however u can spell that when u r half drunk.
i do not care what they are trying to say/prove, they killed 50,000 people who they had never met, and maybe have liked if they had met.

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2002 10:31 pm
by Seahorse
Yes, good point. Shame the bloke on the right in your Avtar was not of the same mind... :cry:

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 4:05 am
by mid_gen
bartender wrote:By that definition are the governments that fight terrorists terrorists?
By my defintion, terrorist are a military group, and hence not civilians. So governments that fight terrorists are not terrorists.

If ya get me. And there's a difference betwen arguing over acceptable civilian casualties and flying a passenger jet into a civilian building.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 9:13 am
by LazyManc
I do not care what they are trying to say/prove, they killed 50,000 people who they had never met, and maybe have liked if they had met
This FBI report puts that figure at 3047, including the casualties at all three sites. Don't get me wrong, it was a horrific act, but the yanks seem to be killing themselves just fine without the need for terrorists:
Firearms accounted for 8,719 slayings, or about two-thirds, followed by knives, "personal" weapons such as fists and feet, blunt objects and such methods as drugs, strangulation and drowning. There were 10 murders-by-poison in the United States last year, according to the FBI.

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2002 11:06 am
by Chief
if you want to kill people... you dont deserve to live youself, and you will be eradicated of the face of this planet.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 6:49 pm
by Phaliure
Whatever the figure it was too many people and the achieved the square root of fuck all.
I do not believe that osma was a deeply religious guy I think he had some serious issues and would have had no support had he not claimed to do it in the name of god.
So the rabid dogs option it is!!

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:02 pm
by mid_gen
Phaliure wrote:Whatever the figure it was too many people and the achieved the square root of fuck all.
I do not believe that osma was a deeply religious guy I think he had some serious issues and would have had no support had he not claimed to do it in the name of god.
So the rabid dogs option it is!!
Achieved nothing? I think a glance at *any* news source tells a different story. Whether it benefitted his cause or not, is another matter, but he certainly achieved something. The guys who flew into the buildings were religious, and most likely Osama thinks he is doing the will of god...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:31 pm
by uatec
Y is it the will of God? I though islam worshipped Allah...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:41 pm
by Phaliure
I apologise for my poorly worded post I meant that he achieved FA for his cause besides bad publicity and a serious taliban-housing crisis. It is a shame we haven't caught the man of the hour, or do you all think that he should be punished then. Death sentence or not.

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:45 pm
by Seahorse
Thought he was dead already... :twisted:

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 8:50 pm
by mid_gen
Someone tried to poision him a while back and succeeded in destroying his kidneys and damaging his liver. Sucka is on dialysis.

If only the would-be asassin had been a bit more thorough in his/her poison research..

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2002 10:59 pm
by shrek
Sod poision, why didn't they just try and shoot the bastard?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 9:45 am
by Phaliure
Not slow enough in my oppinion, he needs to die 3000 times over, have they invented a way of doing that yet?

Damn...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 6:16 pm
by Seahorse
Yes, it's called Eastenders... :(

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2002 7:15 pm
by Phaliure
A great plan
Lets send the whole crew out there for a 247 live show.
Kill 2 birds with one stone.
e don't watch and they do

Ha ha ha

Why didn't we think of this before.

We should be ruling the world with revolutionary ideas like this. Shot gun russia